If you want to be safe do not answer. If you don't mind some risk thank her for her concern and leave it at that. Jehovah's Witnesses are not free to be themselves. She may be sincere but she is not in control of her life or her beliefs. Not yet at least...
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Ideas how to answer a jw friend
by Daniel1555 ini faded completely (no kh visits or field service).. just recently a close friend from the kh wrote:.
"dear daniel.
it's a pity that we don't see you anymore at the kingdom hall.
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Are Elders experts on the Bible? Are they spirtually qualified men?
by John Aquila inhow many times have elders read their bible in its entirety?
these are the leaders that give counsel to married couples, to teenagers, to single girls and single boys on everything from marriage, education, sex, association, dress, and recreation..
how well do they know their bible?
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Most Elders know only what the Governing Body has taught. Most of them would prefer NOT to know what the Bible actually teaches because it would mess up their lives and perhaps force them to be who they actually claim to be: Christians following Jesus Christ. -
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Preparing for Governing Body 3.0? Making older GB step down? (New September Watchtower)
by FusionTheism inwatchtower, study edition, september 2015, "are you reaching the stature that belongs to christ?":.
paragraph 6: the mature christian shows humility in that he recognizes that jehovahs ways and standards are always better than his own.
[footnote: for example, older, experienced brothers may be asked to step aside from certain responsibilities and to lend support to younger brothers as they take on those responsibilities.].
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Joe, the Governing Body has only to claim that we are so close to the end it is now necessary to begin training those who will take the lead when they, the Governing Body, are resurrected to heaven. Thus some among the non-anointed Helpers will enter the holy and begin their training to take the lead by becoming a voting member of the Governing Body.
"Let us thank Jehovah for this provision"... will be their claim. And the friends in the congregations will gladly buy it.
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Preparing for Governing Body 3.0? Making older GB step down? (New September Watchtower)
by FusionTheism inwatchtower, study edition, september 2015, "are you reaching the stature that belongs to christ?":.
paragraph 6: the mature christian shows humility in that he recognizes that jehovahs ways and standards are always better than his own.
[footnote: for example, older, experienced brothers may be asked to step aside from certain responsibilities and to lend support to younger brothers as they take on those responsibilities.].
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Preparing for Governing Body 3.0? Making older GB step down? (New September Watchtower)
by FusionTheism inwatchtower, study edition, september 2015, "are you reaching the stature that belongs to christ?":.
paragraph 6: the mature christian shows humility in that he recognizes that jehovahs ways and standards are always better than his own.
[footnote: for example, older, experienced brothers may be asked to step aside from certain responsibilities and to lend support to younger brothers as they take on those responsibilities.].
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Yes, I believe the GB is getting ready to retire a few of their own and will replace them with some among their Helpers, anointed or not. They will in a "humble mode" claim that they too are subject to age limitations which require retirement when it is necessary.
Then those among the GB who retire will (like Emeritus Pope Benedict who lives in luxury without the bother) live out their lives at Warwick making a few appearances here and there to convention crowds.
It is coming.
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Raymond Franz and Ted Jaracz
by Hold Me-Thrill Me inmelita jaracz' life story (september 15, 2015 watchtower) said her husband ted jaracz died on wednesday, june 9, 2010. .
this was exactly one week after raymond franz died on wednesday, june 2, 2010. .
jaracz once helped to "kill" franz.
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Melita Jaracz' life story (September 15, 2015 Watchtower) said her husband Ted Jaracz died on Wednesday, June 9, 2010.
This was exactly one week after Raymond Franz died on Wednesday, June 2, 2010.
Jaracz once helped to "kill" Franz. Did Franz' death help to kill Jaracz?
Jaracz existed to corrupt whoever was good in the Organization. What we have today is the fruits of Jaracz' labors: the current Governing Body. Perhaps after Jaracz heard of Franz' death his body gave way to the stroke that killed him.
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To: Robert Ciranko, James Mantz, Izak Marais, Gene Smalley, John Wischuk
by Hold Me-Thrill Me inhelpers on writing committee.
robert ciranko .
james mantz .
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Helpers on Writing Committee
Robert Ciranko
James Mantz
Izak Marais
Gene Smalley
John Wischuk
September 15, 2015 Watchtower: Are You Reaching the Stature That Belongs to Christ?Page 7, Paragraph 14
Question: 14. Jesus chose what sort of individuals as his friends?
FRIENDS AMONG THOSE DOING GOD’S WILL
"14 Jesus Christ was friendly toward people in general. Individuals of all sorts felt at ease in his company—men, women, young, old, even children. But in choosing close friends, Jesus was selective. He said to his faithful apostles: “You are my friends if you do what I am commanding you.” (John 15:14) Jesus chose such friends from among those who loyally followed him and served Jehovah wholeheartedly. Do you similarly select your close friends from among those who serve Jehovah unreservedly? Why is this important?" (emphasis added)
Who wrote this obvious corruption of Jesus? Jesus who was a friend of sinners and tax collectors. Jesus who befriended the so called "unrighteous" more often than the so called "righteous" who lived in their religious high places.
Robert Ciranko, did you write that paragraph? James Mantz, did you? Izak Marais, Gene Smalley, John Wischuk was that your work?
Peter succumbed to the fear of man and denied his Lord. This is what you men have done and are doing. Deserved kindness of God upon you.
(James 5:4) "Look! The wages due the workers who harvested YOUR fields but which are held up by YOU, keep crying out, and the calls for help on the part of the reapers have entered into the ears of Jehovah of armies."
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God's Spirit
by Hold Me-Thrill Me inwhat is god's spirit?
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i ask this of those who believe in god.
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God's spirit is the power that drives every living cell. This is why scientists are unable to truly invent/make/create or even reverse engineer life. They have the mechanics but not the driving force, God's spirit.
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God's Spirit
by Hold Me-Thrill Me inwhat is god's spirit?
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i ask this of those who believe in god.
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What is God's spirit?
I ask this of those who believe in God.
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To My Generation: Jehovah's Witnesses of the Vietnam War Era
by Hold Me-Thrill Me into my generation: jehovah's witnesses of the vietnam war era .
if you were a young brother in the late 60's you then remember the burden of the draft and the prospect of going to jail for refusing on religious grounds to be called up.
in those days we were taught that to do community service was conscientiously the same as joining the military and so we were told to refuse such exemptions.
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Blondie, thanks for posting the 1996 article. In 1998 they opened their fly and exposed the fact that many of us were not too pleased with them. Who knows how many letters they got regarding the 1996 article but it must have been plenty for them to print the article below. Also, it should be noted that brothers in other countries were also going to jail. A letter was printed during this same time from a brother I believe from Greece who expressed his appreciation for the changes in civilian service.The Watchtower's extreme positions on this and other things like blood, shunning of relatives etc. have negatively effected many lives, if not ruined them or even killed them.
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*** w98 8/15 p. 17 Strengthening Our Confidence in God’s Righteousness ***
Feelings of Having Suffered Needlessly
6 In the past, some Witnesses have suffered for refusing to share in an activity that their conscience now might permit. For example, this might have been their choice years ago as to certain types of civilian service. A brother might now feel that he could conscientiously perform such without overstepping his Christian neutrality regarding the present system of things.(It was NOT our choice. They forced the choice on us.)
7 Was it unrighteous on Jehovah’s part to allow him to suffer for rejecting what he now might do without consequences? Most who have had that experience would not think so. Rather, they rejoice that they had the opportunity of demonstrating publicly and clearly that they were determined to be firm on the issue of universal sovereignty. (Compare Job 27:5.) What reason could anyone have to regret having followed his conscience in taking a firm stand for Jehovah? By loyally upholding Christian principles as they understood them or by responding to the proddings of conscience, they proved worthy of Jehovah’s friendship. Certainly, it is wise to avoid a course that would disturb one’s conscience or that would likely cause others to be stumbled. We can think in this regard of the example that the apostle Paul set.—1 Corinthians 8:12, 13; 10:31-33.( Please note, first they blame God. "Without consequences" means without consequences from the Watchtower. "Christian principles as they understood them" is, pardon the expression bullshit. We understood ONLY what we were told to understand. What follows is an even greater kick in the pants.)
8 In order to please Jehovah, the Jews were required to obey the Ten Commandments and also a wide variety of about 600 additional laws. Later, under the Christian arrangement, obedience to these laws as such was no longer a requirement for serving Jehovah, not even for fleshly Jews. The laws no longer binding included those dealing with circumcision, keeping the Sabbath, offering animal sacrifices, and observing certain dietary restrictions. (1 Corinthians 7:19; 10:25; Colossians 2:16, 17; Hebrews 10:1, 11-14) Jews—including the apostles—who became Christians were released from the obligation to keep laws that they were required to obey when they were under the Law covenant. Did they complain that God’s arrangement was unrighteous in having formerly required of them things that were no longer necessary? No, they rejoiced in the broadened understanding of Jehovah’s purposes.—Acts 16:4, 5.(Please note, they are comparing the changes they make to the change in worship made in the Bible. I don't why I did not explode then but I was too blinded.)
9 In modern times, there have been some Witnesses who were very strict in their view of what they would or would not do. For that reason they suffered more than others. Later, increased knowledge helped them to expand their view of matters. But they have no reason to regret having earlier acted in harmony with their conscience, even when this possibly brought extra suffering. It truly is commendable that they demonstrated their willingness to suffer in faithfulness to Jehovah, to “do all things for the sake of the good news.” Jehovah blesses that kind of godly devotion. (1 Corinthians 9:23; Hebrews 6:10) The apostle Peter wrote with insight: “If, when you are doing good and you suffer, you endure it, this is a thing agreeable with God.”—1 Peter 2:20.(We were not strict. We simply did as we were told. Either we tried to get a minister classification or we went to prison. I was in the northeast at the time and some of us did go prison because we were told that was the only Christian choice to make. If we joined the military quiet disfellowshiping was the result. "Increased knowledge" was the 1996 Watchtower article.)
Thanks again Blondie for bringing up the 1996 article.
Frank